Jack, I ran with your group at the begining of the year when training for the memorial marathon. I am now training for White Rock in December but I am not really happy with the program I am currently using. Any chance that you could email a copy of the training schedule we used. Thanks in advance. If anyone has any training programs to recommend please let me know. I am aiming for a sub 4hr and have a relatively good fitness base after competing in tri's all summer.